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Old 06-12-2005, 08:11 PM
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Naming Disks and Clone Drives

Dave, I think everyone would benefit from a discussion of how to name the internal and external hard drives when cloning. I looked thru the instructions but I am still a little confused about it myself. For example, when cloning from an internal hard drive to an external what should the external be named? Also when cloning back to a NEW internal drive that drive should be named ? I would like to name them both something different to tell them apart. So how about some basic rules? Thanks
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Old 06-12-2005, 08:26 PM
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Ray: it doesn't have anything to do with internal, external, or much of anything else.

The basic rule is this: if you plan on booting from a copy, and the original drive is going to be available, name the copy the same as the original (unless it's a safety clone).

There aren't really any exceptions.

The reason to do it: if you don't, aliases could resolve to the original drive, rather than to the copy. (If the original isn't available, it'll go to the copy, but if the original is, and the boot volume isn't named the same, the alias will go to the original volume instead of the new one.)

How's that sound -- reasonable/clear/etc?
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Old 06-12-2005, 08:39 PM
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I understand ...So if I am using the clone as

a backup only then it is not as important. If I name them both "Mac HD" how do I tell them apart?

sorry to be a pain but I am doing this for my daughter who can't afford to lose her programs etc. She is a graphic design major and uses many different programs that would be a pain to reload if something happened. Thanks
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Old 06-12-2005, 08:57 PM
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Well, SuperDuper! won't let you copy to the boot drive, so you know if it's selectable it's the backup.

Also, if it's external (vs internal) it'll have the default FireWire icon, whereas the internal will look like a regular drive.

But, remember: you don't have to name it the same until you want to boot from it.
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Old 06-13-2005, 10:51 PM
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Few things:

As is, boot volume v.backup volume vis a vis safety is fine. But, when doing other volumes it is iffy. A more visual method of selecting drives would be less error prone. Say I am restoring a partition from a backed up image. Once mounted the image is xxxx1 and the internal partition is merely xxxx. ASSuming one kows the .1 means it's the external, all is well. Being forced to navigate to volumes would be more foolproof and no more time or mousing demandig. Yes! :-P I erased a full volume and copied a empty volume to it. Dumb. But I know I am so had a third backup (and do have four of everything). Just about every other backup app has a visual method (pretty much a Mac thing, no?). See Synk.

The icon thing doesn't hold true if you've changed them.

Put in bold the bit about naming as long as it is renamed before booting.

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I'm not sure I understand. Why would seeing the drives in Volumes (something Mac users aren't used to, because Volumes is hidden) be any clearer than a list of them in a pop-up?
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The basic rule is this: if you plan on booting from a copy, and the original drive is going to be available, name the copy the same as the original (unless it's a safety clone).
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But, remember: you don't have to name it the same until you want to boot from it.
So, at the time that the cloning takes place the target volume can be named anything.

If we ever need to boot from that volume later in a situation where the original source volume is also present we can just rename the cloned volume from within the Finder to be the same as the other volume.

What about in a scenario where we would be booting from the clone and then immediately running SD to erase/restore ('reverse clone') to the original volume?
Should the drives be named the same or would it not matter?

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Old 08-23-2005, 03:50 PM
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That's right... if you can get to it in the Finder, of course!

With the reverse, you'd want the backup to be named the same as the original, restored to the original drive name. That's the best way, at least...!
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