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Old 07-15-2013, 03:14 PM
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away with partitions on my internal?

Dear Dave et. al.,

I have a scenario I would like advice with. I live by SD!, and bootable clones. I am constantly battling lack of internal drive space on my 15" 2008 MacBook Pro C2D, and have just splurged for a Solid State Hybrid 1TB drive to replace my 750GB internal.

I have always partitioned my internal so that my system and user is on a 500GB partition, because all of my backup drives/partitions are 500 GB. I have only one drive in easy rotation that could accommodate a 1TB partition to receive an SD! bootable clone, and this is unacceptable to me - I need one bootable clone onsite and one offsite at the very least.

I would like to avoid partition my internal this time around -- it is such a hassle to move movies and music to a separate drive inside, and i'm always jostling between the two partitions when space gets scarce, trying to keep at least 15% free on each...

So, after reading the SD! manual again, I wonder if you/all would comment on this possibility. I know this would not be in accordance with best practices....

I want to keep my internal un-partitioned this round if possible.

Is it possible to clone *reliably* using the backup-all files script:

1. to a smaller destination volume IF the amount of data being cloned is significantly less than (e.g., at least 100GB less than) the size of the destination volume?
2. exclude say ~/music and ~/movies, and
3. come out with a BOOTABLE clone (without the excluded folders, of course)

This would allow me to continue to have the security of multiple bootable clones while not upgrading all of my external backup drives and also while allowing me to proceed with an internal drive with a single partition. I am willing to have music and videos be backed up elsewhere and to mess with them separately.

Since I have multiple bootable drives with updated systems installed (not all clones), bootability is not absolutely necessary for the mass of other external clones themselves, but bootability upon restore is crucial -- since the beginning of my tenure with SD!, I have not had to reinstall applications. And I am not about to give this up now!

Thanks!
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Old 07-15-2013, 03:20 PM
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Sure. But it seems more sensible to get a drive that can actually accommodate your data. A 1TB external is < $100.

Note, too - we've seen a lot of problems with first generation hybrid drives. Not all hybrids are bad, of course, but do research that drive thoroughly before installing it, and make sure you have the most recent firmware.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:22 PM
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Sure. But it seems more sensible to get a drive that can actually accommodate your data. A 1TB external is < $100.

Note, too - we've seen a lot of problems with first generation hybrid drives. Not all hybrids are bad, of course, but do research that drive thoroughly before installing it, and make sure you have the most recent firmware.
I have two drives that will accept the 1TB clone, but as I live between two continents, I prefer to have more clones around. I will partition these two appropriately to receive clones.

Hybrids -- hmm, I'm concerned to hear about hybrid drive problems. I only found one thread on the SD! forum about hybrid drives and your reply was basically that they were no issue for SD!

Have we seen problems with the 2.5" Seagate 1TB SSDHD ST1000LM014 drive? Would your recommendation be to stay away from this one? The reviews I saw have been largely positive for this drive. But I'm all ears...

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Right, they're no issue for SD. It's just that - if you search around on the 'net - you'll find a lot of the early ones had weird "pausing" and "freezing" problems. They've likely resolved those, but it's just something to look out for.
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Old 07-15-2013, 06:18 PM
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Right, they're no issue for SD. It's just that - if you search around on the 'net - you'll find a lot of the early ones had weird "pausing" and "freezing" problems. They've likely resolved those, but it's just something to look out for.
OK super. Thanks for quick replies, as always!
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Old 07-17-2013, 04:47 PM
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Hi, Dave!

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A 1TB external is < $100.
Currently $69.99:
Amazon.com: WD My Passport 1TB Portable External Hard Drive Storage USB 3.0 Black: Computers & Accessories

You previously discouraged buying WD My Book drives. Do you you have any experience with or opinion of their My Passport drives? I'm considering getting the 2TB model, or possibly a similarly priced 2TB Toshiba Canvas (Basic or Connect), or maybe waiting until other major manufactures (e.g. Seagate) release 2TB 2.5" drives. Portability is better serving my current external storage needs at least until I'm ready to reevaluate and upgrade my desktop environment. Likely I'll upgrade my iPhone 3GS before anything else but that's still not urgent.
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I've used the Seagate Backup Plus USB3 drive (about the same price, or less), and I've had good luck with it. I still avoid WD externals. YMMV.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:27 PM
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Seagate's largest capacity Portable Backup Plus is 1.5TB; the Desktop model goes up to 4TB. Their Expansion drives are up to 1TB/4TB and less expensive without the backup software (useless to me with SD! ).

Amazon reviews now tend to favor WD externals over Seagate, though I still tend more towards Seagate.

Love my two 1TB (Samsung HN-M101MBB) USB3 Oyen Digital drives, even while being limited to USB2 usage.

Puzzling to me why externals seem generally less expensive than internals, coinciding with increased USB3 and SSD3 popularity?

Think I can postpone more portable drive purchases for a bit. Instead, maybe get at least a 2TB external, swap internals with my miniStack's 1TB, and semi-retire my 500GB PATA FW400 external before it fatally retires itself.

End of rambling.
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I think as USB3 takes over as the dominant connection method, the case maker is going to matter less and less. WD's FW interfaces are troublesome, but their USB interfaces are usually OK...
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