Growl does and doesn't work
 

I have been trying backup notification with Growl. I deleted the old scheduled backup and created new one. In the Growl General Preference Pane, if I enable Logging, then Growl reports in the very long Console Log that the sheduled backup occurred suessfully. However, in the Growl Appliation Preference Pane, if I switch the SuperDuper Sticky preferences to Fixed (checkmark), the notifications do not stick.

I run the scheduled backup in middle of night and would like to see the Growl backup notification when I start up in the morning. However, SuperDuper, after running the the sheduled backup, seems to convert the Growl Sticky preference back to the default setting (Mixed) and the notifications do not remain on the screen after SuperDuper quits. Should I run backup without having SuperDuper quit?

Also, how does one email a Growl notification?

I'm not having problems with notification becoming unsticky, macWish -- weird. Current SD? Did you customize the script template, perhaps?

You can email a growl notification by using the "mail" notification type.

I am using current SD - version 2.1.3. My script is not customized, merely backup users with smartupdate. There is about a 8-10 hour interval between when the scheduled backup runs and when I activate my iMac in the morning. It does not sleep during the interval.

Since author of Growl did not include a script for Eudora, I suspect the latter is not Growl compliant. At least, I could not figure out how to modify the mail notification script.

Even if you use Eudora, if Growl depends on Mail, you can set mail up appropriately for your account (including outbound mail), but simply not run/use it... then it'll be able to send mail to you.

I set Mail up as directed and will let you know what happens with next scheduled backup.

Checked it twice with freshly sheduled copies. Console logs that SuperDuper completes scheduled copy successfully, but neither Growl notifications nor email appear. Strange.

You're sure you've turned on the Scheduled copy notifications and not the Manual ones?

They are both turned on. Your question imples the Manual ones be turned off, which I will do and try again.
In case it helps, here is the Console Log relating to latest scheduled copy:

2006-10-17 21:30:02.405 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:30:02 -0400 SuperDuper! registered
2006-10-17 21:30:02.434 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:30:02 -0400 Growl: Application re-registered (SuperDuper! registered) - Priority 0
FinderPop-20000: Patching 'SuperDuper!' 0:66a0001 (CF)
2006-10-17 21:30:05.341 SuperDuper![8230] Can't open input server /Users/ronaldgold/Library/InputManagers/Smart Crash Reports
2006-10-17 21:30:05.526 SuperDuper![8230] PluginLoader: Not loading GrowlCamino. [This is not an error; do not report it.]
2006-10-17 21:30:05.527 SuperDuper![8230] PluginLoader: Not loading UnifyCamino. [This is not an error; do not report it.]
2006-10-17 21:30:06.954 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:30:06 -0400 SuperDuper! registered
2006-10-17 21:30:07.004 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:30:07 -0400 Growl: Application re-registered (SuperDuper! registered) - Priority 0
2006-10-17 21:30:53.595 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:30:53 -0400 GrowlCamino: Page Loaded (MacUpdate: Macintosh Software & Game Downloads) - Priority 0
Oct 17 21:31:00 Ronald-Golds-Computer /Applications/Camino.app/Contents/MacOS/Camino: CMSCreateDataProviderOrGetInfo : Invalid colorspace type
2006-10-17 21:31:02.389 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:31:02 -0400 GrowlCamino: Page Loaded (MacInTouch: timely news and tips about the Apple Macintosh) - Priority 0
2006-10-17 21:31:12.356 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:31:12 -0400 GrowlCamino: Page Loaded (Daring Fireball: Linked List) - Priority 0
2006-10-17 21:31:16.611 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:31:16 -0400 GrowlCamino: Page Loaded (Applelinks - The Ultimate Macintosh Website) - Priority 0
2006-10-17 21:31:18.786 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:31:18 -0400 GrowlCamino: Page Loaded (macosxhints.com - OS X tips and tricks!) - Priority 0
2006-10-17 21:31:18.993 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:31:18 -0400 GrowlCamino: Page Loaded (MacFixIt - Troubleshooting Solutions for the Macintosh) - Priority 0
2006-10-17 21:31:25.024 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:31:25 -0400 GrowlCamino: Page Loaded (The Mac Night Owl) - Priority 0
2006-10-17 21:31:27.771 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:31:27 -0400 GrowlCamino: Page Loaded (Ars Technica) - Priority 0
2006-10-17 21:31:30.336 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:31:30 -0400 GrowlCamino: Page Loaded (digg / All) - Priority 0
2006-10-17 21:31:38.891 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:31:38 -0400 GrowlCamino: Page Loaded (The Unofficial Apple Weblog (TUAW)) - Priority 0
2006-10-17 21:36:00.766 GrowlHelperApp[167] 2006-10-17 21:36:00 -0400 SuperDuper!: SuperDuper! backup succeeded (Backup of MacIntosh HD to Backup was successful.) - Priority 0

What seems rather strange is that I don't get any of this "re-registered" stuff. And that backup success looks like a non-scheduled notification...

Well things are even more strange than I thought.
Testing Growl again, I opened the Growl Pref Pane, selected SuperDuper and made sure than only the Scheduled Backup Notifications were selected, that the non-scheduled notifications, were deselected, and that the Sheduled notifications were sticky.
Then I set up a new backup schedule.
Because the SD preferences on Growl Pref Pane seemed to be reverting to default settings spontaneously whenever a scheduled backup was run, this time as soon as SuperDuper launched for a scheduled backup, I opened the Growl Pref Pane again. All of the settings for SuperDuper had reverted to default, i.e. all were selected, not just the scheduled notifications.

I don't have difficulty with any of the other growl settings for Camino, iGet, SpamSieve, or PageSender. Perhaps the SD Growl is conflicting with one of the other applications.

Any way, since I have not had any problems with scheduled backups, I removed the growl template from SuperDuper and will wait for final version to try it again.

Do you want me to try anything else?

OK, this is what's wrong, macWish. The Growl function was built into SD! a number of releases ago. Please re-download a fresh copy of SuperDuper! and recreate your schedules without messing around with the template.

The built-in template should work fine with Growl...

Problems solved.
1. Growl function works with scheduled backup;
2. Sticky problem - had to go to Growl forum to learn that certain notification displays do not support Stickyness - bezel, the default display, does not support sticky!. So changed SD notifications to Plain display and now sticky works.

If Growl was built into SD! a number of releases ago, why no news of it prior to this Thread? Or did I miss something in update readme?

Back in June this was a sneak-peek into the next version of SD!, which was released some time ago... :)

My fault then for not checking this forum regularly. But since SD! was working so well, and always has, I didn't notice the date on the start of this thread.

If only Growl documentation were as good as SD!'s!!

Will it mess with the system?
 

I had never heard of Growl before this, so I know nothing about it. My main question is whether it is a hack that messes with the system files. OS 10.5, which is still pretty unstable anyway, seems to be very unstable whenever someone pokes under the hood. Unsanity's Application Enhancer apparently caused a lot of people a lot of problems. Will Growl do something like that? :confused: