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msladepas
04-25-2009, 10:49 PM
My first creation of a external boot copy under Mac OS 10.5.6 had the problem that the SOURCE disk ("Macintosh HD") ended up almost full. I started with Macintosh HD having ~72 GB of files. I ended up with nearly 320 GB on it after the standard recommended path of backup to external FireWire 800 drive: erase target disk, then copy files from Macintosh HD, then "Do Nothing".
Details: this was my work machine, not the laptop I am writing from. It's a Mac Pro 3.2 Intel desktop. I used SuperDuper! 2.5. The target was a LaCie 301832 320GB "Rugged All-Terrain" drive, and, as I said, I used the FireWire 800 interface.
In the end, after deleting a few large files for safety and rebooting, the MacPro was back to ~72 GB on the internal drive (not a RAID drive or anything exotic). However I feel I must have done something wrong since this does not happen when I use SuperDuper! at home (separate license) with my MacBook Pro. It was difficult to come up with a title that conveyed the problem.

dnanian
04-25-2009, 10:57 PM
Did you perhaps store the backup -- or a secondary image -- on the original drive?

msladepas
04-28-2009, 03:41 AM
Did you perhaps store the backup -- or a secondary image -- on the original drive?

My setup looked just like the attachment. Could that setup put the backup on
the original drive? Keep in mind that I have backed up my MacBook Pro many times with no such problem (running 10.4.11). I would have no idea HOW to store the backup on the original drive, or what a "secondary image" is.

The destination volume had a bootable backup of "Macintosh HD" on it.

As I said, after rebooting, all the "extra" files on the source drive vanished.
It just was disconcerting to unlock the screen and see "you are nearly out of disk space."

dnanian
04-28-2009, 08:11 AM
Are you running an AntiVirus program?

msladepas
05-04-2009, 03:25 AM
Are you running an AntiVirus program?

On a Mac? whatever for? If I were using a virtual PC, I would use one there.
Anyway, no, I am not running any antivirus software. Symantec Utilites for Macintosh has been shown to be worse than useless. Why do you ask?

Everyone that I have asked about this problem said that it sounded like a (minor) bug in SuperDuper! (minor since the problem went away after a reboot). However, I worry that the next time I use SD!, the source HD will overflow and the backup will fail. Thanks for thinking about this; I was hoping that this was a known problem. I have had no such problem with SD! at home (running 10.4.11 on a 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro; boot rom MBP31.0070.B07; 2 GB memory).

dnanian
05-04-2009, 08:56 AM
I didn't suggest that you should use an AntiVirus program. I asked whether you were, since AntiVirus programs will take temporary space while copies are being made as they scan the files.

The people who you asked, who pointed at SuperDuper!, are not correct - we do not take temporary space on the source drive while we copy. That's why I'm pointing at other potential areas... perhaps you could run Grand Perspective when the space taken is larger than expected to see what that space actually is?

msladepas
05-05-2009, 03:47 AM
Thanks for the pointer to GrandPerspective! It is well reviewed and seems (I hate to say it) cute.

As to what the extra files were: they were ~3 copies of the all the files originally on the source disk. The extra copies of the contents of the source disk all disappeared on a reboot, leaving only the original files.

Had I suspected that this was not a known problem of, say, using a La Cie "All-Terrain" drive with an IEEE 1394b interface as the destination drive, I would have recorded much more detail about the weird contents of my internal drive. I assumed a problem as gross as what I found would have surfaced prior to my doing what I had done dozens of times at home with SD! I think I will get a "real" external drive, 10'' by 5'' by 1.5 " high, for the next time.
You have a excellent product and I'm not trying to disparage it at all!

dnanian
05-05-2009, 07:47 AM
Again, I have no idea how or why 3 copies of each source file would be created. It's absolutely not a known problem, not something we do, and I don't even know how -- if they were created -- they could vanish on restart.

I also don't think it has anything at all to do with your LaCie All-Terrain drive. Many users have success with that particular drive, and hardware can't really cause files to triple on the source.