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Old 04-06-2010, 11:15 PM
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SuperDuper keeps turning Spotlight indexing back on - grrrr!

Maybe I don't understand what "Restoring Spotlight state" is supposed to do, but it's not doing what I want, or at least not what I intuitively expect:

- I have Spotless set to keep Spotlight indexing disabled on my internal drive. (I abhor Spotlight in the first place, and it's an SSD drive, which doesn't need all that life-reducing thrashing.)
- I have Spotless' daemon set to automatically disable indexing on all newly-mounted volumes.
- After I backup my internal drive with a Smart Update, indexing always gets enabled on my destination drive.
- So it's not restoring the actual Spotlight state of my source drive; rather, it's forcing indexing on me when I don't want it.

How do I configure SuperDuper to honor the extant Spotlight state, viz., disabled, of my drive that's being backed-up?
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Old 04-07-2010, 12:11 AM
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Simply add the backup drive to the spotlight preference pane's privacy tab.
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Old 04-07-2010, 10:24 AM
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Simply add the backup drive to the spotlight preference pane's privacy tab.
Allright, I'll give that a try and see if it works.
But I guess the wider question is, my sense of what a backup is, is to make a duplicate of my source drive. If Spotlight is disabled on my source drive, then why isn't that state honored when it's backed-up? When I hear the phrase, "Restoring Spotlight state," my natural intuitive expectation is that whatever state it's originally in will be what's "restored." But that state isn't getting restored: what was turned-off gets turned-on behind my back. It seems to my way of thinking that the question of the Privacy Tab shouldn't even arise in the first place. I thought that Spotless was taking care of all that. My concern is that it's SuperDuper that's imposing its will on me instead of just duplicating all aspects of my source drive.

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Old 04-07-2010, 12:03 PM
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There are a lot of different 'parts' to Spotlight. In general, Spotlight - that is, the process - should be on. Privacy tell spotlight to not touch the drive. It's different than the overall state of Spotlight.

It's best to use Privacy. They fixed the problems with privacy long ago (it used to vanish unexpectedly, hence the need for spotless originally), and I think you'll find it'll work fine as long as you're using Smart Update.
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Old 06-23-2010, 02:41 PM
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> It's best to use Privacy. They fixed the problems
> with privacy long ago...

Well, it's still flaky as of Leopard 10.5.8. It sure doesn’t remember the privacy state of my removable drives.

How about coming up with a script we can add to our SuperDuper! options to run a script after backup that will disable Spotlight and eject the volume upon quit?
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Old 06-23-2010, 02:47 PM
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I haven't seen any problem with this in Leopard, as long as you're using Smart Update... you can always eject the volume, if you want, with the existing on successful completion options.
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There are a lot of different 'parts' to Spotlight. In general, Spotlight - that is, the process - should be on. Privacy tell spotlight to not touch the drive. It's different than the overall state of Spotlight.

It's best to use Privacy. They fixed the problems with privacy long ago (it used to vanish unexpectedly, hence the need for spotless originally), and I think you'll find it'll work fine as long as you're using Smart Update.
Dave,
In my experience with Spotlight Privacy on Tiger, Leopard, and Snow Leopard, I find absolutely no evidence that Apple has fixed the problems with Privacy. My privacy settings regularly disappear on my new MacBook Pro running 10.6.8 just as they did on my iMac and MacMini running 10.4.11. The disappearance is unpredictable, but always happens sooner or later. Once the privacy settings automatically reset to their defaults, namely, no volumes listed, then my external clones start indexing.
I haven't had to use Spotless to control Spotlight as TinkerTool System does an adequate job.
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I've had no problem at all with Privacy - it works just fine for me since 10.5. I don't know why you'd find differently, unless you erased the drive (or the Spotlight files).
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