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Mellfee 08-27-2008 11:55 AM

Files being added when I clone
 
Hi,
For some reason when I clone my HD SuperDuper has started adding files.
My Primary consists of;

Applications
Library
System
Users

But the clone consists of;

Applications
dev
etc
Home
Library
Net
System
tmp
Users
var

Why is this happening?

dnanian 08-27-2008 01:36 PM

Those are normal folders present on the source. If they're visible on the destination, it's because -- for whatever reason -- the OS is not returning that they're hidden when we ask for the files' attributes.

They're not being added, though -- you're just able to see them. Nothing to really worry about, and they'll likely be dynamically hidden when you start up from the drive.

Mellfee 08-27-2008 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnanian (Post 21115)
Those are normal folders present on the source. If they're visible on the destination, it's because -- for whatever reason -- the OS is not returning that they're hidden when we ask for the files' attributes.

They're not being added, though -- you're just able to see them. Nothing to really worry about, and they'll likely be dynamically hidden when you start up from the drive.


Ok, thanks. Its weird to me because I have never seen them in previous backups.
I tried booting from the clone but it wouldn't start up. It's the first time I have cloned since upgrading to Leopard so I upgraded SuperDuper and am now cloning again to see if it makes any difference.

Im on a Mac using Leopard on a G4

dnanian 08-27-2008 02:13 PM

Make sure the backup is properly partitioned as "Apple Partition Map"...

Mellfee 08-27-2008 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnanian (Post 21124)
Make sure the backup is properly partitioned as "Apple Partition Map"...




Yes, it is Apple Map Partitioned.

Im almost done making another backup so I'll post my results.

I'm still a little perplexed. I started using SuperDuper over a year ago and Im sure I remember that the clone looked (as I expected a clone to) exactly the same as the source. So its strange to me that now that amongst my normal files there are these extra files that I have never even heard of before.

Thanks for your help, by the way.

dnanian 08-27-2008 04:30 PM

What brand/model of drive is this? It's not a MyBook, is it?

(Different versions of OSX have different bugs; Leopard, on your system, is returning different attributes for these folders, for whatever reason. They were always there, though, if hidden.)

Mellfee 08-27-2008 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnanian (Post 21135)
What brand/model of drive is this? It's not a MyBook, is it?

(Different versions of OSX have different bugs; Leopard, on your system, is returning different attributes for these folders, for whatever reason. They were always there, though, if hidden.)




Im backing up to a Lacie big Disk Extreme (1tb).

It's Leopard 10.5.4 and it's the first back up i've done since upgrading. As I mentioned I am currently making another back up after just upgrading superduper to 2.5 (it's taken 4.5 hours so far...!). Hopefully it might solve the problem.

Im really not techie enough to fully understand what could cause it. The important thing is that my data is saved and that I can boot from it. Curiosity is driving me to seek what this particular issue is.

dnanian 08-27-2008 04:54 PM

OK. And it's FireWire?

Mellfee 08-27-2008 04:58 PM

FW 800

Partitioned
Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
Apple Map partition

Mellfee 08-27-2008 05:02 PM

If I highlight my Macintosh HD I see the normal four folders; Applications, Library, System, Users.
Under normal circumstances if I do a full back up should the clone show the same initial folders?

dnanian 08-27-2008 05:04 PM

At least those, yes.

Mellfee 08-27-2008 05:13 PM

I guess I had always expected to see only those. Your saying its normal to see others, right?

dnanian 08-27-2008 05:20 PM

If it's not the startup drive, you might see other folders too, if they don't return the 'hidden' attribute when we request. Certainly, all the folders you've indicated in your messages are present on the source...

Mellfee 08-27-2008 05:44 PM

Ok, well the new backup is finished and I just booted up from it fine. It is also now showing exactly the same folders as the source.

Is it ok for me to assume that upgrading to Superduper 2.5 helped?

Dave, thank you very much for your time and advice. Although I now have Time Machine with Leopard I haven't considered using it because Super Duper seems to do exactly what I need; an emergency back up that I can boot from. A wonderful piece of software and worth every penny.

dnanian 08-27-2008 06:23 PM

I didn't realize that you were using 2.1.4 to copy Leopard, Mellfee - that would definitely make a big difference -- but the 'other' visible folders are something you do see on some systems.

Glad you're all set! :)


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