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Washac
12-03-2007, 09:23 AM
Hi Ya

Have waited but now it is getting to the point where I feel that nobody cares about us paying customers here

I for one do not need or want to backup Time Machine, why would you anyway ?

Does anybody know another decent back up prog for Leopard.

Seems I have paid for a product that is not fit for purpose :(

See ya, off to find another prog...

dnanian
12-03-2007, 09:35 AM
Nobody cares? If we didn't care, Washac, we wouldn't be working so hard to ensure things are working right -- we'd just throw whatever we had out there without testing.

bernietheone
12-03-2007, 10:19 AM
Hi Ya

Have waited but now it is getting to the point where I feel that nobody cares about us paying customers here

I for one do not need or want to backup Time Machine, why would you anyway ?

Does anybody know another decent back up prog for Leopard.

Seems I have paid for a product that is not fit for purpose :(

See ya, off to find another prog...

This is unfair Sir..., if you read everything here and subscribe to the Blog of this Site then you get more Info then at any other Backup-Software-Publisher out there.

SuperDuper is IMHO the No. 1 Backup-Solution for OS X and as far as i can read between the lines it will get much more attention when it comes out for Leopard (Time-Machine Halo Effekt...), so i think every minute we wait here our beloved SuperDuper! gets better, so:

If Time Machine is the backup-solution for people who likes to live in the past, then SuperDuper! will be the Backup-Solution for People with Backup-Needs for the Future!

(Sorry, i just had a few free minutes...;-)

cheers,

bernie

timlance
12-03-2007, 01:23 PM
Hi Ya

Have waited but now it is getting to the point where I feel that nobody cares about us paying customers here

I for one do not need or want to backup Time Machine, why would you anyway ?

Does anybody know another decent back up prog for Leopard.

Seems I have paid for a product that is not fit for purpose :(

See ya, off to find another prog...
What? Do you truly believe Dave (and all the other software developers out there that are in the same boat) are hoarding their apps just for themselves? Loving all the grief that is being laid onto them? Trot on over to Unsanity's blog, or Applejack's, or Onyx's, or ... I hope you get the picture.

TMay
12-04-2007, 02:55 AM
Washac

Timlance is SO on the money; there are a lot of developers with the same/similar problems.

But more important (to me) is that Dave in my book is waaay too polite to tell people like you where to get off. I'm saying this NOT because of your frustrations with the delay, etc., which are shared by many, but the juvenile, whiny, troll-like way you express yourself. Do you ever read/edit anything you write before posting it, and if so, do you realize how it reads/sounds?

But you won't see this anyway, since you're "off to find another prog..." Bye bye.

mobius
12-04-2007, 07:14 AM
What TMay said!

Bruce

Mark_42
12-04-2007, 06:58 PM
Hi Ya

Have waited but now it is getting to the point where I feel that nobody cares about us paying customers here

I for one do not need or want to backup Time Machine, why would you anyway ?

Does anybody know another decent back up prog for Leopard.

Seems I have paid for a product that is not fit for purpose :(

See ya, off to find another prog...

I'm also an SD! user waiting for the update. I'm currently using Carbon Copy Cloner for my backups and I feel uneasy trusting my data so something other than my preferred backup tool.

That being said, I'm not willing to start haranguing the developer to get the new version out. I've been following the various threads here, as well as the blog, and I understand his desire to provide a complete and stable product right out of the gate. Beta versions are fine for applications that will do no harm if they don't work properly, but a program I trust to protect my data is an entirely different matter.

BTW, Time Machine is a fantastic tool. A great addition to a comprehensive backup regimen.

FromageTheDog
12-06-2007, 03:06 AM
I'm a touch annoyed reading about new features that they are implementing, which I can only imagine adds to the delay.

Priority # 1 should have been on getting the current functionality ported over to the new platform. Over a month without my primary backup software is stretching the limits a bit.

New features should have been saved for the next +0.01 update. Just my $0.02.

timlance
12-06-2007, 07:23 AM
I'm a touch annoyed reading about new features that they are implementing, which I can only imagine adds to the delay.

Priority # 1 should have been on getting the current functionality ported over to the new platform. Over a month without my primary backup software is stretching the limits a bit.

New features should have been saved for the next +0.01 update. Just my $0.02.

Hmmm. From my reading I get that these features are unavoidable, that they are part and parcel to the basic copy engine. They can't be helped.

dnanian
12-06-2007, 09:11 AM
Trust me that we understand that, and we're not implementing things willy-nilly. The icon preservation 'feature' fell out of some other things we had to do.

steveb
12-06-2007, 05:29 PM
Over a month without my primary backup software is stretching the limits a bit.

Ya, your damn right. That Dave bloke is an evil MF. I mean, putting a gun to your head, forcing you to upgrade to Leopard, even though he knew damn well your primary backup software was not yet compatible, and still wouldn't be ready over 1 month later! What a git.

What? He didn't hold a gun to your head? Oh, you upgraded out of choice? Knowing full well your primary backup software was not going to work?

As Del Boy (http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/onlyfools/uncovered/derek.shtml) would say, "what a right plonker you are".

:D

FromageTheDog
12-08-2007, 03:37 AM
Ya, your damn right. That Dave bloke is an evil MF. I mean, putting a gun to your head, forcing you to upgrade to Leopard, even though he knew damn well your primary backup software was not yet compatible, and still wouldn't be ready over 1 month later! What a git.

What? He didn't hold a gun to your head? Oh, you upgraded out of choice? Knowing full well your primary backup software was not going to work?

As Del Boy (http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/onlyfools/uncovered/derek.shtml) would say, "what a right plonker you are".

:D
:rolleyes: Get a life.

visch1
12-08-2007, 05:48 AM
See ya, off to find another prog...[/QUOTE]

Some just don't get it! I may not like waiting either but far prefer to wait than get not quite ready SF. Besides my impatience quite often shows my immature tendencies. This doesn’t seem to be a simple fix like changing a spark plug and being on your way for another couple years. I feel bad for the hard working crew working on this getting so much hammering.

Diazruanova
12-09-2007, 11:42 AM
Ya, your damn right. That Dave bloke is an evil MF. I mean, putting a gun to your head, forcing you to upgrade to Leopard, even though he knew damn well your primary backup software was not yet compatible, and still wouldn't be ready over 1 month later! What a git.

What? He didn't hold a gun to your head? Oh, you upgraded out of choice? Knowing full well your primary backup software was not going to work?

As Del Boy (http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/onlyfools/uncovered/derek.shtml) would say, "what a right plonker you are".

:D

LOL !!! :)

TMay
12-10-2007, 01:13 AM
:rolleyes: Get a life.

Fromage

I dunno, I kinda like the life he's already got. :D Just my $0.02.

vudutu
12-13-2007, 07:05 AM
"Have waited but now it is getting to the point where I feel that nobody cares about us paying customers here"

OH MY you poor thing, stop whining, it's your own fault. If you just had to get a brand new Mac that came with the new OS and put critical data on it and you don't want to use time machine then do a drag copy for now or go get CCC.

Anyone who has critical data and UPGRADES to a new OS version as soon as it come out is either a nubie or a masochistic. You want to be on the leading edge NOT the bleeding edge. Wait until it gets stable, until a couple of revs come out, that gives the app developers time to get it right and when it comes to BU SW you definately want it right.

difficultrun
12-13-2007, 09:29 PM
Vudutu ... you sound like one of those jackoff Vista users! What do I have to do wait for three years until a jerk like you determines that an OS is "stable"?

Sorry for the rant, but I'm sick and tired of you holier than thou "only a fool would upgrade" types. Get a life

TMay
12-14-2007, 12:01 AM
difficultrun

Well, perhaps "Difficult Run" is an appropriate nick, then, and maybe that's why you chose it. Since only a fool WOULD upgrade this soon to a major OS upgrade, if the shoe fits, as they used to say, then wear it. Have a life, thanks, and suppose that Vudutu does too.

P.S. Why do I doubt that you're "sorry for the rant?"

bucky
12-14-2007, 08:45 AM
steveB

As an adult you are responsible for making your own decisions, nobody holds a gun to your head, stop passing the buck and winging and whining.

I have not upgraded to Leopard yet and will not do so until most of the bugs are fixed and I can do a Super ``duper back up, nobody forced me to make that decision it's mine !!! Dave and his team in my view are doing a good job.

I think you need to stop behaving like a spoilt adolescent and a few lessons in good manners and social graces might not go amiss.
When you've found your prog I suggest you go back to your pond.

vudutu
12-14-2007, 01:09 PM
LOL hardly a Vista user, all Mac, 130+ of them, all still on Tiger, all working and backed up with SuperDuper.

steveb
12-14-2007, 03:21 PM
steveB

As an adult you are responsible for making your own decisions, nobody holds a gun to your head, stop passing the buck and winging and whining.

I have not upgraded to Leopard yet and will not do so until most of the bugs are fixed and I can do a Super ``duper back up, nobody forced me to make that decision it's mine !!! Dave and his team in my view are doing a good job.

I think you need to stop behaving like a spoilt adolescent and a few lessons in good manners and social graces might not go amiss.
When you've found your prog I suggest you go back to your pond.

Erm, go back and re-read my post, I think you've mis-read it.

I setup TM this week for the hell of it, it's pretty good actually, for me at least not at all buggy. It's no replacement for SD! in my opinion as the two are very different, but nonetheless, it's a good wee app. I think I'll be using both in the future.

difficultrun
12-14-2007, 07:47 PM
TMay,

Unlike you, I don't live in fear of upgrading ... I've been using Leopard since day one and have not had any problems. I imagine you'll deem it safe to upgrade sometime around 2013 ...

I certainly don't base my upgrade schedule on whether SD is available or not. I can figure out an adequate backup plan without having to rely on SD.

TMay
12-14-2007, 11:52 PM
TMay,

Unlike you, I don't live in fear of upgrading ... I've been using Leopard since day one and have not had any problems. I imagine you'll deem it safe to upgrade sometime around 2013 ...

I certainly don't base my upgrade schedule on whether SD is available or not. I can figure out an adequate backup plan without having to rely on SD.

dr

First, your last point. Yes, I'm sure you can figure out an alternate backup plan, and have. Good. If everyone would just do that and quit the bitching about SD, I'd probably relax some.

Second, about early adoption, 2013 is a little conservative, but "day one" is pretty foolish, IMO. If you really care, you can see what one Mac user since System/Finder 1.1 (me) said about quick upgrading here:
http://www.shirt-pocket.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14814#post14814
I won't point you to the posts here in the last two to seven days from the troubled Leopard users, since you've probably seen them yourself. I'm glad your path has been smooth.

Basically, the pioneers often have arrows in their chests. No reason not to "play" with the latest and greatest, but jeopardize my "real" setup from "day one," no thanks. So.....reasonable people can differ...and so can unreasonable ones.

difficultrun
12-15-2007, 12:11 AM
TMay,

We agree to disagree -- fair enough. My only point is that someone has to lead the pack and take the plunge. I'm willing to take the risk. But I don't think it's fair to call those of us who do take the risk foolish or stupid.

Good luck to you and I do hope that when you do decide to upgrade that you have smooth sailing.

bucky
12-18-2007, 08:16 AM
Erm, go back and re-read my post, I think you've mis-read it.

I setup TM this week for the hell of it, it's pretty good actually, for me at least not at all buggy. It's no replacement for SD! in my opinion as the two are very different, but nonetheless, it's a good wee app. I think I'll be using both in the future.

I don't think I misread you, you misrepresented your thoughts, too cryptic.

However I hope you accept my apology.

bucky